oliver stone/salon CEO on JFK-- EXECUTED by the WARMACHINE? - vzn on day true story



I can remember years ago the amazing buzz when the Stone movie on the JFK assassination came out. I never did see it, but at the time I found the MSMs pushback against the movie curious. there was no such term MSM at the time, but I could smell something fishy. 

the JFK assassination was before my time and I never got too invested in it personally. but I do think its a valuable "training wheel" type historical and conspiracy event. for those of you who live in the Matrix, its one of the 1st glaring incidents from our history that causes significant cognitive dissonance among the thinking public.

wow, I had no idea that TALBOT was into conspiracy theory, but yep, sure enough, in 2007 he wrote a book that was reviewed by the NYT: "Brothers, the hidden history of the Kennedy Years".* the title may be misleading, it sounds like its a probable analysis of the JFK assassination. maybe the publisher thought the title too controversial to sell books?

alas I cant attend the event in santa monica & they didnt invite me anyway despite my esteemed and meticulous contributions to the field and on open salon. @ %&... I swear I would love to. those of you who've read my blog would know its very much up my alley. cringing with envy! I sure hope some other enterprising salon bloggers can attend & post a summary & pictures.

but, let me contribute something to the proceedings. heres a quickly hashed together post of some resources for anyone who might attend. study notes. a cheat sheet. with a slant toward some brilliant but not widely recognized open salon writers.

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so Ive never delved too deeply into the kennedy assassination but I do tend to agree with the conspiracy angle. the JFK conspiracy is somewhat disillusioning however even if you believe in it because 45 years after it happened, almost a half century, arguably we still do not have the truth. or rather, we do probably have the truth, but it hasnt seeped into widespread acceptance.

of course there is mountains of material on JFK conspiracy all over the web, but I havent searched it much at all. has anyone else? however Ive read several outstanding posts right here on open salon, one that really stuck out. rw005g is a progressive lawyer whose posted quite a bit on here & Ive traded lots of comments with. he wrote a brilliant post "Even congress admits lee harvey oswald didnt act alone".*

The Committee's results, while public record, were never widely publicized. Interestingly, the Committee officially stated that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone, and that yes, there were additional shots fired by an unknown person located at the infamous "grassy knoll." The Committee stated that there WAS, indeed, a 4th shot, as shown by accoustical evidence analysis put forth by the National Academy of Sciences.  

in my possibly faulty memory this was once flagged as a EP & maybe even made the salon cover page briefly, but it isnt currently an EP. I wonder if the EP was a-posteriori yanked? I seem to recall something like this. rw005g are you listening? do you remember? [maybe it was another post, does anyone else recall? digital footprints/fingerprints are very easy to erase....] if it happened I would sure have liked to have been a fly on the wall in that decision....

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anyway then theres two excellent relevant book reviews. 1st, by old new lefty, another person on here Ive traded many comments on here with. he reviews the James W. Douglass' book JFK and the Unspeakable:  Why he died and why it matters.*

The military powers that be, in combination with the CIA and defense contractors had a vested interest in promoting the Vietnam War as much as they possibly could.  And JFK's plans to actually withdraw from Vietnam ASAP appear to be the motivation for the conspirators to kill in Dallas.  When you examine the CIA infiltration of Vietnam in 1963, you will find that it's totally equivalent to the CIA infiltration of Afghanistan.  And this puts current events into perhaps a different light.

afghanistan as the current war of our times? compared to vietnam? yeah exactly. and 911 parallels the assassination of kennedy followed by the runup of the vietnam war.

was JFK MURDERED BY THE US WARMACHINE?

the book has strong evidence this is exactly the case. 

yes, I hear the snickers from the peanut gallery.

no, sorry, I do not own any tinfoil hats. 

but I do proudly own a fully tinfoil-plated blog. and by the way thanks for reading it, wink =)

of course when I talk about the "warmachine" I am using a convenient shorthand for the a nexus of human "powers that be" and powerbrokers in private industry and government. which are shadowy but which control the "levers of power".

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2nd book review by jeanne bramhall. on the book Transparent Conspiracy by Michael D. Morrissey. he believes that the CIA intentionally does not fully cover up its conspiracies such as with JFK and 911 using so-called "white" propaganda that mixes the truth. thereby a mechanism to intentionally discourage people from whistleblowing who are in power, aware, in a position to do something, and/or on the fringes of the conspiracy.*

Specifically he argues there is major value (from the government point of view) in disclosing a limited amount of information concerning government culpability in atrocities such as the JFK assassination and 911. He bases his view on something he calls "Transparency Theory" – thus his title The Transparent Conspiracy. He says the CIA has long recognized that "telling part of the truth is the best way to lie." They even have a term for it: "white propaganda." Morrissey argues that for the government to brazenly commit criminal acts can be quite effective in demoralizing and alienating the tuned-in segment of the population that fully comprehends the corrupt nature of our government institutions.

He then lays out the hypothetical question: if the reality of the 911 conspiracy were widely accepted by the American public, would they be capable of doing anything about it? Morrissey believes that at this point in history they would be powerless (that they lack the power to bring the culprits to trial or even impeach them). Which he contends is a powerful basis for demoralization and alienation.

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next I include a famous 2008 essay by prof peter dale scott, a very highly respected professor and historian of what he refers to as "deep events" and "deep politics". he regard the JFK assassination and 911 as similar "deep events" that can only be understood in this context-- as manifestations of the secret/shadow government/power system of the US.*

I strongly agree with his formulation.

in the essay he briefly questions at the end if what he calls "internet politics" can force the political apparatus into a confrontation over these key issues. in the title he refers to the "hope of internet politics" but did not develop the idea in the essay.

I have developed some of this theme further on my own blog writing. I do believe there is a new phenomenon of "internet politics" but that it is nascent, undeveloped, and therefore weak. we are in the early days and I believe it could grow in power, gradually over time. it will require a further, more intense schism with the MSM but which glimmers of this are being now seen. [eg the massive confrontation over the Murdoch empire that happened last summer].

and arguably Internet Politics is increasing in intensity with the occupy wall street protests.

I dont know if Talbot or Stone will say anything about 911 but I sure hope that the topic comes up and the audience at least asks them about it. in my opinion 911 makes the JFK assassination look like childs play.* 

this aint your grandfathers conspiracy theory.

and lets see if anyone santa monica takes the red pill.

 




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